Toti: “Green pass only to those who are vaccinated”

Giuseppe Nicoloro Giuseppe Nicoloro / AGF

Giovanni Toti, president of Liguria, has just left the La Spezia stadium, where today the public was able to watch the team’s match. “It is one of the demonstrations – he says – that the Green pass is needed because without the green certificate we would not have spent a good Sunday of sport at the stadium. Too bad only for the goal immediately at the end of the second half, but what matters is the life that symbolically returns. This is why I am in favor of the anti-Covid vaccination obligation if almost all the vaccinated people are not reached. We need to secure the country and this is not done by giving back to the bizarre theories of the no vax to which no one should wink “.

The line of you center-right Northern Governors is very clear on the extent of the Green pass. Matteo Salvini, in Parliament but also in the Council of Ministers, tries to get in the way. In your opinion, should it be less ambiguous?
I believe that the League is trivially following the double track, of struggle and government. The governors are close to my line, which is that of responsibility, then there is a fighting league that tries to leave as little space as possible for Giorgia Meloni.

It is now an open challenge between Salvini and Meloni. How do you stand? The polls do not seem to reward the League.
It is definitely an open challenge. I place myself as a spectator who does not feel totally at home neither in the League nor in the Brothers of Italy and who sees that moderate pole of the center-right that seems almost resigned to being only a spectator and not a protagonist. Apart from my Liguria where things are different, my party is the most voted and therefore the moderates have an important role. At the national level, however, there is Forza Italia that bulla or regrets half a point more or less in the polls. This is why we at ‘Cambiamo’ today joined forces with Coraggio Italia and we are trying in some way to create something other than the two sovereignties present in Italy.

Do you think there is a lot of tactics inside the league? Can we define it as a game of the parties, between who is fighting and who is in government?
It seems very tactical to me, but I don’t think there is an explicit agreement between Salvini and the governors, everyone follows his strings a bit. The League unites a bourgeois electorate, the productive one in the North, with an electorate of protest and structured contestation. Keeping these two things together is honestly not easy.

But can a party that is part of the majority be precisely one of struggle and of government? Shouldn’t Salvini be more moderate at this stage?
The center-right in general, if in 2023 it wants to present itself as a government force, must not only make an exercise of consensus but must demonstrate that it is a true ruling class, it must have a country project, without winks at the square minorities. It must be able to dialogue with the production system and with the great powers of the world. It must inherit the credibility that the Draghi government boasts today.

Are you referring to Salvini when he says he winks at the square minorities?
I have a granite certainty, not only do we have to secure the restart of the country, but we must do it in the long term, we must give banks and companies the certainty that the extraordinary economic development, which we will have thanks to the Recovery fund, will not be interrupted. . We need the vaccination campaign to reach extraordinary, almost total levels of diffusion. If this is not the case, the vaccination obligation will be the tool that will guarantee the safety of the country in the long term. This is not done by winking at the squares of the no Green pass or no vax.

The extended Green pass could be approved this week. In your opinion, which categories should it be extended to?
For me it needs to be extended as much as possible. Not only that, I consider those who do not have the Green pass to be outside the civil forum, unless it is necessarily linked to medical needs. I would tie the Green pass exclusively to the vaccine, I would not allow the use of the swab. I would make the vaccine compulsory for anyone over 18 years old.

What vote would you give to Prime Minister Draghi?
I would give him 10. If only because he removed a country from the hindrance of bizarre Governments, first the grillini with the Lega, and then the grillini with Pd and Renzi. He is the only one who has managed to bring all forces together and build a government that has the capacity and a stable majority to meet the necessary challenges. But when the referee’s government has to return to a country presided over by the players everyone will have to do their part. I believe that the moderates of the center-right have the possibilities to do so only by overcoming selfishness and nostalgia for the past, otherwise there is a risk that the center-left will take possession of Draghi’s legacy without having the right credentials.

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