Debate with Marine Le Pen, Islamism, proportional … What to remember from the show with Gérald Darmanin

Gérald Darmanin. — NICOLAS MESSYASZ / SIPA
  • Gérald Darmnin was this Thursday evening the guest of “You have the floor”, the political program of France 2.
  • The Minister of the Interior spoke at length about the bill against separatism, examined since Monday in the National Assembly.
  • He also debated at length with Marine Le Pen, president of the RN, on insecurity, Islamism and immigration.

A sometimes tense issue. Gérald Darmanin was the guest this Thursday evening of It’s your turn to speak on France 2. The Minister of the Interior spoke about the bill on “separatism”, currently examined in the National Assembly, article 24 or the accusation of rape which targets it. The elected representative of Tourcoing also strongly debated with Marine Le Pen, the president of the National Rally, on the fight against Islamism. 20 Minutes takes stock of the evening.

An “error” on article 24

The minister quickly showed himself in good shape, defending his “popular talk”, as when he estimated in September that “drugs are shit”. “You can always make mistakes and I have undoubtedly made and will do again, afterwards I am also the product of my community as they say. The common people use vocabularies that everyone understands and I come from it ”, he justified, denouncing criticisms of“ bourgeois ”.

The minister then evoked a regret, concerning article 24 of the comprehensive security bill, on which the government finally backed down. “The goals are very noble, but we could have done it differently, by excluding journalists from the start. This is a mistake that I will not do again. If we can write it better, it will be better for everyone, ”he added.

Rape charge: “I will not be indicted in this case”

The minister then tensed, when journalists from France 2 questioned him about the rape accusation against him. “There have been three successive court decisions,” he said, and “I see that after four years, this slander does not stop”. The investigation was dismissed twice between 2017 and 2018. But the complainant, Sophie Patterson-Spatz, relaunched her complaint and, after two years of procedural battle, another investigating judge has been in charge of the investigations since l ‘last summer. “I will not be indicted in this case,” he assured.

To Marine Le Pen: “You are softer than we can be”

Then it was the debate against Marine Le Pen. The president of the National Rally criticized the bill against government separatism. “We needed a great combat law, not an administrative police text. You limit the freedoms of all, but you do not fight against the Islamist ideology ”, she launched, defending her own measures.

The minister replied by denouncing the double-talk of his evening opponent. “There is a Marine Le Pen from the trays and a Marine Le Pen from the Parliament. You are softer than we can be, ”he said, recalling that the candidate had not passed the law strengthening internal security and the fight against terrorism (Silt) in October 2017.

“This book, I could have signed it”, launches Marine Le Pen

Marine Le Pen responded in the same vein, holding the minister’s work in her hands, Islamist separatism – Manifesto for secularism : “This book, I could have signed it. You define Islamism extremely clearly, you talk about Salafism, the Muslim Brotherhood, the tabligh, the most terrible forms of ideology in the modern world. But of all this, what remains in the law? Very little, ”she regretted.

The debate then turned to immigration. “You have lost control over immigration and security in our country,” lamented the member for Pas-de-Calais. “Speaking of large replacement, you maintain fear,” replied the person, denouncing “approximations” on the figures. Marine Le Pen then defended one of his proposals, the ban of the veil in public space. “This proposal is not serious, we can not police clothing,” replied Gerald Darmanin, referring to a measure contrary to the Constitution.

The proportional to the next legislative?

At the end of the program, Gérald Darmanin was asked about the broken promise of Emmanuel Macron to establish a proportionate dose for the legislative elections, which some want to revive. “It was a promise from the candidate for the presidency of the Republic, it must be implemented. But it depends on the Senate too [tenu par la droite]. We had proposed institutional reforms, the Senate refused it. The entire program of the President of the Republic must be applied, ”he replied.

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