Avi Nissenkorn: “Huldai was worthy, maybe Lapid will bring about the change”

Former Minister of Justice Avi Nissenkorn, Was interviewed tonight (Saturday) by Rina Matzliach on Channel 12 and was asked about his relationship with his former partners, Defense Minister Bnei Gantz and Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai: Yes, he explained the failure of the ‘Israelis’ – “the Israeli public did not agree to accept another party.”

Do you feel like a failure?
“No, I feel like a person with values ​​who tried to fight.”

Ganz said it was a mistake to go with Netanyahu, do you think so too?
“No. I think under the circumstances it was the right decision but when you are inside you have to look at two things – that you struggle every day for your values, and I did that, and you have to look every day whether to stay or not.”

What did it help Corona? Are you dropping the whole bag on Ganz?
“I do not speak on behalf of others. There is politicization of roles and secondly our entry has prevented unilateral annexation.”

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Interview with Avi Nissenkorn on the Knesset channel. Photo: From the Knesset channel

The majority do not think like you. Let’s talk matter-of-factly, the first to violate the blue-and-white coalition agreement for the Likud is you.
“We agreed to set up a non-politicizing appointments committee. When I was told that Ohana would politicize appointments – I said no.”

Did you enter the coalition with them and suddenly find out?
“There was a victory for the right and there was an epidemic of Corona. It was a time for solidarity and Bibi did not rise.”

The breakup was ugly too. Ganz brought you in and reserved you on the list.
“It’s not true, I did not come out of nowhere. I came from the position of chairman of the Histadrut and then I gave it up because the country is in distress. When I came to the yeshiva and Haim Ramon was sitting and I did not know that negotiations were taking place with him behind my back, I did not negotiate in the interim period. Haim Ramon shows me how he does the opposite of what I did for eight months, also in the conduct of the Ministerial Committee for Legislation and other issues that emptied them of all validity – I saw this as a serious matter. Haim Ramon with a different worldview than mine, and I said that to Gantz. He knew I was retiring. Haim Ramon is a bitter man. “

Haim Ramon said that you negotiated with Yair Lapid, with Huldai, with Labor.
“I did not negotiate with anyone. Ganz knew there was a public of MKs in blue and white who wanted to split and I refused. I respect Ganz so I did not split the blue and white but it is not possible that if my values ​​are not met, I will stay in the same place. Ganz knew that there was a public of MKs in blue and white who wanted to split up and I refused. ”

Can Ganz be Prime Minister?
“I had a crisis of confidence and I left, do not want to give no grades, the public will decide.”

Benjamin Netanyahu, Bnei Gantz (Photo: Knesset Spokeswoman – Yaniv Nadav)

You were interviewed a month ago and said that blue and white will not pass the blocking percentage and there will only be a future and the Israelis. But they pass the blocking percentage and the ‘Israelis’ did not survive.
“In the last month I have not made the right political decisions, but they have been valuable.”

You also did not get along with Huldai even though he asked to ‘stay’.
“I have a good relationship with Huldai and I thought it was forbidden to stay in my party songs.”

Where was the failure of the Israelis?
“There is a severe crisis in the center-left and apparently the public did not agree to accept another new party during this period. I think my and Huldai’s desire to strengthen the center-left was not enough. I still think there is a need for a strong center-left in Israel.”

You could go to the Labor Party. Are not your values?
“I made my decisions and I do not regret it because I went with the heart. The Labor Party is my values ​​and I think the ‘New Labor’ should be established.

So could it be that you will go with the work?
“It could very well be. I am happy that the work is going through the blocking percentage. I, my father, will vote for one of the center-left parties. I have a crisis with blue and white, so of course not. We must change the State of Israel.”

Was Huldai worthy as prime minister?
“Certainly not, there are not many people with such an experience of Huldai. The fact that the public made its decision is a different matter. But Huldai was worthy. The State of Israel cannot continue with the democratic crisis.”

Huldai and Nissenkorn (Photo: Ness Productions)Huldai and Nissenkorn (Photo: Ness Productions)

Did Netanyahu’s attitude toward the justice system affect the justice system?
“I saw a legal system in trauma and for eight months I worked to get it out of it. A legal system in which no official is in charge, that everyone is trying to beat, that people step on pictures of me and Spokesman Mandelblit. People abroad do not understand how this happens in a democracy. We stopped seeing that. “

What kind of person is Prime Minister Netanyahu?
“An egocentric man, self-centered. He’s smart and intelligent But his value system was confused. His difference between what is good for him and what is good for the country – was confused because of the case. It attacks the justice system completely. His economic worldview was distorted because it did not suit him. “

Who will be the Prime Minister?
“I hope someone else brings change and I think the country needs change.”

Gideon Saar or Bennett are a change?
“Everyone who comes in and is clean-handed – that’s a change. It should be someone from the center-left, maybe a torch. I took a break. When I get home and I have a child with a disability, it puts proportion.”

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