Maria Efthimiou: “40 years ago elementary school students knew more than high school graduates today”
The Greek historian was very revealing, clear and with a specific reasoning…
Maria Efthimiou: The Greek historian and university professor gave an interview in mid-December. The interview he gave took place in a nice restaurant. He was in Koukaki. The Greek historian was very revealing, clear and with a specific reasoning…
“The deep and prolonged crisis we are going through has not taught us any substantial lessons. The majority of the Greek people do not want to change, so any improvement will be temporary. It will not allow us to make the leap we need. If the malfunction, rot and dissolution are prolonged, some of our eye-catching neighbors will dismember us and absorb us. “Hearing such a black assessment from a serious man who rarely speaks in the media, but has dedicated his life to the study of history, causes you confusion,” he said characteristically.
Journalist question: But do you not think that little by little things will get better, especially if there is a political leadership in the place that will enhance development?
Maria Efthimiou: With the minds and mentality we have today, we are not saved. Maybe for a period of a few years more funds will come to Greece and there will be a recovery. It will, however, be temporary. And we will sink again – if we do the same. Thirty-five years ago, our entry into the European Union gave us a great opportunity. But instead of matching the advanced states and changing our dysfunctional points, we were only interested in money.
Rich and well-run countries, however, did not become rich and well-run because they suddenly found money. If that were the case, Nigeria – which has a rich subsoil – would be one of the richest and most well-governed countries in the world. It is not a matter of wealth. It is how you hire yourself and your function in the society you belong to. It is a deeply political issue, that is. And it concerns the whole society, one by one the citizen.
Journalist question: Yes, but we have come a long way in the last 30 years…
Maria Efthimiou: Of course. If you look at the Greece of ’49, when the Civil War ended, it was a country scorched from top to bottom. The difference in image with today is huge. The country had improved a lot since the 1960s. And, of course, after the ’80s a lot of money came from the EU. Cut money. Which were given to us to build infrastructure, so that we can launch our economy and converge to the European level.
We managed the thing the way we did. Without seriousness and confrontation with the future. So, the crisis came. And I see countries around us that were down, going up, while we that were higher were constantly falling. In all areas. And how can we not collapse when we do not want to see ourselves and change. We are addicted to being babies.
What we suffer is always the fault of others and never us. This is how we are raised in our families, where we wait for our parents to support us until we grow old. We do the same with the countries with which we participate in wider coalitions. We expect them to scold us as well. Perpetually. And to be, of course, always indignant. Being “outraged” is our constant point. We have an appeal against this.
Journalist question: How will we grow up and become stronger?
Maria Efthimiou: To become stronger, we need to talk to ourselves and walk our lives honestly. And not to resort to the audacity we show, that is, to look at how much we will grab, cursing from above, blaming others for our own mistakes and inadequacies. It is not possible for a society to proceed with such indignity. We must become brave. Brave is the one who takes responsibility for his actions and decides to rely on his own strength to move forward. To observe a masculine behavior, as we used to say. But I do not think that will happen. I am very afraid that our long-term weakness will give us space to be absorbed by other forces.
Journalist question: Do you mean violent?
Maria Efthimiou: Part of this development will inevitably be violent. And it will lead us, gradually, to lose our cultural identity – which, after all, we ourselves renounce and of which we are indifferent. As, for example, for our language.
Journalist question: Do you think that Turkey can play this role?
Maria Efthimiou: Turkey is a big player. And because of this, extremely dangerous. However, it will not be Germany that will absorb us, as some say.
Journalist question: Yes, but I do not see many people coming out and emphasizing that we need to change and get serious.
Maria Efthimiou: It has been said in all tones, by many and for a long time. We, however, do not hear that. We like to live in conspiracy theories: that everyone plots against us, that they envy us for our nice climate, our relaxed life, our minerals, etc. Even today, one third of the Greek people believe that they are being sprayed. So what are we talking about? From what base do we start?
Maria Efthimiou: Hypocritical patriotic speech
Maria Efthimiou believes that the country continues to suffer today and can not overcome the division and the wounds of the Civil War. He says that the Civil War may have ended in ’49, but politically, the division between the Left and the Right is prolonged, with mutations, until today. In fact, during the decades that passed, a reversal took place: the losers of the Civil War emerged, through the popular narrative, as its moral winners.
In the subconscious of a significant part of the Greek people, the losers of the Civil War were classified as “lads”, “socially sensitive”, “progressive”. Thus, in the Metapolitism, the edifice of society revolved subcutaneously around this narrative. Everyone presented himself as a “leftist”, therefore as a “victim” of the respective “bad government” (which he himself, however, elected and promoted to misery), in order to demand, under ideological cover, other benefits and other impunity they were not entitled to it.
As she mentions in her last book (“Only a few kilometers. Stories for History”, written in collaboration with Makis Provatas and released in November by Patakis Publications), with the restoration of Democracy, instead of seizing the opportunity to restart our society on a new basis, healthy, we were immersed in the diseases of the past and saw ourselves in opposition to previous eras.
And since these earlier eras often contained hypocritical “patriotic” speech, we decided that patriotism – that is, to hurt and take care of your country, to protect your society and the public good – is “reactionary” and “fascist”. While destroying and vandalizing its public property is “progressive”.
Maria Efthimiou: The label of the left
He notes in our discussion that, as Jose Saramago says, left speech today, instead of defending the truth, has become Siloam’s swimming pool to cover all misery. If you catch and label the “left”, whatever you do is tolerated by a society that is afraid to denounce evil and will not be labeled “fascist”, “fascist” and “reactionary”. .
And he cites the Marfin tragedy as an example. The three dead – a woman of whom he was, in fact, pregnant – who were burned in the center of Athens by groups of “outraged leftists”, who heroically shouted “burn, burn, go to bed”. Because they were working, while in the opinion of the “left” protesters, they should go on strike. As if the strike is mandatory.
And we do not talk about these three people at all because they were burned by “leftists”. There is no mention. Nowhere. Not even a plaque outside the building where they were burned alive. On the contrary, we remember and honor the singer Pavlos Fyssas who was stabbed in Piraeus by some criminal fascist groups – and we are doing the right thing. But we remember and honor him because the killers were fascists and not leftists. But this morality, as a society, can take us nowhere.
Maria Efthimiou: The requirements
Since 2006 Maria Efthimiou has given thousands of lectures throughout Greece teaching World and Greek History. Tens of thousands of people have come to these courses to be able to better interpret what is happening around them. On the subject of education, he says that a climate of low demands has been created in society. In schools, all students, anyway, get A in elementary school and 19 or 20 in high school, work or not work, learn not learn. We have an incredible percentage of excellent people worldwide.
No comparison with the past. The neighborhood elementary school graduate 40 years ago knew far more than many high school graduates today. After 1980, this climate was decided in order “not to burden the souls of children”. This is another manifestation of our so-called “left” side. That is, its nothing.
Maria Efthimiou: The meeting
The restaurant “I fabrika tou Efrosynou”, was chosen by Maria Efthimiou – she likes it and it is close to her house, in Koukaki. We started the meal with a wonderful velvet pumpkin soup and shared a delicious portion of itchli politiko (oatmeal stuffed with minced meat, pine nuts and spices) and a colorful carrot salad with parsley, hazelnut, almond, lemon and lemon. We drank water and not alcohol, because we would both go straight to work. They offered us a hot apple pie. The bill was 35.90 euros.
The stations of Maria Efthimiou
– 1955: Born in Larissa.
– 1962: She settled with her family in Athens.
– 1977: Graduated from the Department of History and Archeology of the University of Athens.
– 1981: Began to teach History at the Department of History and Archeology of the University of Athens.
– 1982: Her first son is born.
– 1984: She completed her PhD at the Sorbonne. Her second son was born.
– 2013: Received the Award for Outstanding University Teaching in memory of V. Xanthopoulos – St. Spiritual.
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